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Embroidery thread color records: how to keep what you used for the reorder

By Sara Nelson · · 5 minute read

To match a reorder, you need the brand, line, and color number for every part of the design, written down the day you stitch it. Read the number off the cone label, never off your machine screen or a photo. Note which part of the design each color went on.

That record is the only place the answer lives. The stitch file does not keep it, the customer will not remember it, and a photo of the finished piece only shows you something close.

Why the stitch file won't remember your colors

Most machine files carry the stitches and the color stops, but not the real thread. Wilcom's own help page says machine files hold stitch coordinates and stop codes and no color information. A DST is the plainest case. In his column on why the colors look wrong when you open a design, digitizer Erich Campbell explains that software opening a DST fills in its own default colors. He also explains that formats like PES have a limited built-in palette, so a thread outside it gets swapped for the nearest color when the file is saved.

So the colors on your machine screen are placeholders. My Melco Bravo shows a color for every stop. Those colors have nothing to do with the spools on my needles. If you log the screen color, your record is wrong from day one.

What goes in the record

For every job, I write down:

  • The design and the stitch file name.
  • How big the design is in inches and the stitch count.
  • The garment, its brand, and its color.
  • Each part of the design, in the order it stitches, with the thread for that part.
  • The thread brand, line, and color number for each.
  • The needle, the stabilizer, and anything I changed at the machine.
  • Anything that went wrong.

A real one from my shop is a purple dad hat with lettering in Madeira 1371, a gold. The same design on a yellow hat runs in Madeira 1334, a purple. Same file, same stitch count, two completely different thread records. If I had written "purple hat, gold" I would be guessing on the next order.

Order matters more than people expect. I stitched a group order of six crewnecks with appliqué letters, one fabric and one matching thread per letter. I recorded all six threads. Which letter got which fabric never made it into the record. The thread numbers are right, and a reorder would still be a guess. Write the color next to the part it went on, never as a loose list.

Write the setup down too. My cap record says which needle, how many layers of backing, plus the presser foot setting I settled on after the first try looped. That is the hour I don't want to spend twice.

Read the number off the cone

The cone label is the only source I trust. A photo of the finished piece is not one. Light, cameras, and screens all shift the color. Several of my golds look the same in a picture.

When I am not sure which spool went on a job, the record says so. An honest "thread number not recorded" sends me to the shelf. A guessed number sends me to the wrong spool with full confidence.

The thread line matters, not just the number

The same brand sells more than one line of thread. The number alone does not tell you which. On my group order, four of the six threads were Madeira Polyneon and two were Madeira Classic, the rayon. Both lines use four-digit numbers. The cone label is the only thing that told them apart.

They are different fibers. Madeira says Classic is made from regenerated cellulose and is not bleach-resistant. Polyneon is 100% polyester with resistance to chlorine and bleach. A reorder for team shirts that get washed hard should not switch from one to the other because the record only said "1317." So I write the line on every entry: Polyneon 40 or Classic 40, never just Madeira.

When the reorder comes in and you've changed brands

Shops switch thread brands. If your record says Madeira and your shelf is now Isacord, you need the closest number in the new brand. Broidry's Madeira to Isacord converter and Polyneon to Isacord chart use the brands' own published charts. Most pairings are the nearest available color, not an exact twin, so stitch one sample next to the original piece before you run the order. Then update the record so the next reorder names the thread you actually used.

Where to keep it

The best place is wherever the design already lives. A record in a notebook works until the day you need it on your phone at a craft fair. A spreadsheet works until the row for the design and the row for the thread drift apart. The guide to organizing embroidery design files covers folders and naming. The record belongs right next to the file.

In Broidry, each design on your Designs page holds its stitch file, the true stitched size and stitch count read from that file, a photo, plus your notes. On the design's own page, the Thread colors panel lists the colors in the order you would thread them at the machine. You pick a spool from your thread drawer for each color. Those picks are saved as the design's thread record. The notes box has fill-in lines for who digitized it, stabilizer, machine speed, hooping, needle, and special settings.

Your thread drawer on the Supplies page holds the spools you own by brand, line, and number. That makes each pick a real thread number. If a design asks the buyer to choose a color per thread, every pick is written on the order under "Thread colors they picked." Broidry is free to start. The design library help page walks through it.

How this connects to the rest of the order

A thread record is half of the reorder. The other half is what the customer asked for: the wording, the placement, the garment. The questions to ask before you stitch cover that side. If a piece does go wrong, the record is also what tells you whether it was the thread or the file, which is the first question in who pays for a remake.

The short version

Write the brand, line, and number for each part of the design, read off the cone the day you stitch. Never log the screen color or guess from a photo. Keep the record next to the stitch file. When you change brands, test the converted color before you run the order.

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